In October, Chris and Matt discussed the book “From Christendom to Apostolic Mission” in a two-part series. That’s how much they love this book and how important it is for ministry leaders. This week, they brought in the expert, Dr. Scott Cleveland from the University of Mary where the book was written and published, to take a deep dive into making this shift as ministry leaders. This framework came from how the University operates as a whole so Dr. Scott is steeped in this method and shares insights into it for us.