Matt and Chris dive in deep to consider the fruits that come from being uncomfortable and squirmy. The guys discuss the 4 Agreements, which embrace authenticity and bring greater meaning to ministry conversations. For the sake of teaching the truth, sometimes we have to lean into discomfort as Saint Benedict XVI says, “You were not made for comfort, you were made for greatness.”

In this episode they discuss everything from the merit of “speaking your truth” cliche as well as the importance of cake walks at parish festivals. 

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